Comments on: The Kobayashi Maru (The No-Win Scenario) http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2009/05/kobayashi-maru/ Stop sucking and live a life of abundance Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:26:33 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Hunter Nuttall http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2009/05/kobayashi-maru/comment-page-1/#comment-24260 Hunter Nuttall Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:06:18 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/?p=1420#comment-24260 @ SamuraiMarine, good point about everyone knowing what it is. It would be interesting to have one test that's no-win, and one that's merely difficult, without people knowing which is which. Would people know when the situation calls for prudence vs. crazy risk taking? @ SamuraiMarine, good point about everyone knowing what it is. It would be interesting to have one test that’s no-win, and one that’s merely difficult, without people knowing which is which. Would people know when the situation calls for prudence vs. crazy risk taking?

]]> By: SamuraiMarine http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2009/05/kobayashi-maru/comment-page-1/#comment-24228 SamuraiMarine Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:25:27 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/?p=1420#comment-24228 Excellent post. I think that the No Win is a test of your faith in yourself and those around you as well as a test of dedication. It tests how dedicated you are to a philosophy and how willing you are to "put it all on the line". Sort of like a line I love in the musical "The Man of La Mancha", the song "The Dream"... the line goes "To march into hell for a heavenly cause." Are you willing to lay down your life to save the lives of others? Or as Spock said; "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one or the few." Sometimes... the potential benefits outweigh the risks. The biggest problem, though, with the No Win as presented in ST, is that EVERYONE KNOWS what it is... so everyone goes in to challenge it for just that purpose. If everyone knows the answer to the test already, then why not take chances that you would not normally take? Excellent post.

I think that the No Win is a test of your faith in yourself and those around you as well as a test of dedication. It tests how dedicated you are to a philosophy and how willing you are to “put it all on the line”. Sort of like a line I love in the musical “The Man of La Mancha”, the song “The Dream”… the line goes “To march into hell for a heavenly cause.”

Are you willing to lay down your life to save the lives of others? Or as Spock said; “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one or the few.”

Sometimes… the potential benefits outweigh the risks.

The biggest problem, though, with the No Win as presented in ST, is that EVERYONE KNOWS what it is… so everyone goes in to challenge it for just that purpose. If everyone knows the answer to the test already, then why not take chances that you would not normally take?

]]> By: Hunter Nuttall http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2009/05/kobayashi-maru/comment-page-1/#comment-20135 Hunter Nuttall Tue, 26 May 2009 02:10:01 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/?p=1420#comment-20135 @ Rachael, yeah, poor dogs. I think they've stopped that kind of thing though. @ Rachael, yeah, poor dogs. I think they’ve stopped that kind of thing though.

]]> By: Rachael http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2009/05/kobayashi-maru/comment-page-1/#comment-20087 Rachael Mon, 25 May 2009 16:24:23 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/?p=1420#comment-20087 Poor dogs, but hurray for Star Trek teaching us things! Again, poor dogs... *cry* Poor dogs, but hurray for Star Trek teaching us things!

Again, poor dogs…

*cry*

]]> By: Hunter Nuttall http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2009/05/kobayashi-maru/comment-page-1/#comment-19999 Hunter Nuttall Sun, 24 May 2009 19:35:39 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/?p=1420#comment-19999 @ Glynis, exactly - don't give in because you're eager to prove it as unwinnable. Thinking it's winnable makes it more fun, and may influence the outcome. @ Eric, the dog part was awful, wasn't it? But at least we can learn something from those experiments. At the same time, we can avoid beating people/dogs/etc into submission when we know what it does to them. @ Glynis, exactly – don’t give in because you’re eager to prove it as unwinnable. Thinking it’s winnable makes it more fun, and may influence the outcome.

@ Eric, the dog part was awful, wasn’t it? But at least we can learn something from those experiments. At the same time, we can avoid beating people/dogs/etc into submission when we know what it does to them.

]]> By: Eric Hamm http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2009/05/kobayashi-maru/comment-page-1/#comment-19806 Eric Hamm Fri, 22 May 2009 14:02:12 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/?p=1420#comment-19806 Great stuff Hunter! I love the analogies that really helped me connect with your message. I did cringe at the dog part, though. It's so easy to let live beat you into submission. This kind of encouraging content is just want we need to keep pushing forward and think outside the box. Thanks for taking the time to do this. :-) Eric <abbr><em>Eric Hamm´s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/motivatethyself/~3/dOoqwYU5x8Q/" rel="nofollow">6 Ways To Keep Simple From Getting Complex</a></abbr></em> Great stuff Hunter! I love the analogies that really helped me connect with your message. I did cringe at the dog part, though.

It’s so easy to let live beat you into submission. This kind of encouraging content is just want we need to keep pushing forward and think outside the box.

Thanks for taking the time to do this. :-) Eric

Eric Hamm´s last blog post..6 Ways To Keep Simple From Getting Complex

]]> By: Glynis Smy http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2009/05/kobayashi-maru/comment-page-1/#comment-19782 Glynis Smy Fri, 22 May 2009 06:04:37 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/?p=1420#comment-19782 Every now and then, you may face a situation that seems unwinnable. And maybe it is. But don’t give more power to it than you have to. Don’t be too quick to declare it as unwinnable, when there may be a solution you haven’t thought of yet. I needed to read this today, I have situation I think is unwinnable, but I am not going to give in now :) <abbr><em>Glynis Smy´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.glynissmy.com/2009/05/flowing-wordspressure-and-endorphins.html" rel="nofollow">Flowing Words,Pressure and Endorphins</a></abbr></em> Every now and then, you may face a situation that seems unwinnable. And maybe it is. But don’t give more power to it than you have to. Don’t be too quick to declare it as unwinnable, when there may be a solution you haven’t thought of yet.

I needed to read this today, I have situation I think is unwinnable, but I am not going to give in now :)

Glynis Smy´s last blog post..Flowing Words,Pressure and Endorphins

]]> By: Hunter Nuttall http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2009/05/kobayashi-maru/comment-page-1/#comment-19776 Hunter Nuttall Fri, 22 May 2009 03:56:09 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/?p=1420#comment-19776 @ Chris, true - that's sometimes the best we can do. We have to consider the situation and decide if we can really do anything. @ Carol, I bet that's a great tape! Hopefully they have it on CD too. @ R.R., always nice to meet another Randy fan! @ Chris, true – that’s sometimes the best we can do. We have to consider the situation and decide if we can really do anything.

@ Carol, I bet that’s a great tape! Hopefully they have it on CD too.

@ R.R., always nice to meet another Randy fan!

]]> By: rip randy http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2009/05/kobayashi-maru/comment-page-1/#comment-19744 rip randy Thu, 21 May 2009 19:19:27 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/?p=1420#comment-19744 this picture was for randy pausch? omg, he is my hero and role model. R.I.P. Randy, I am your #1 biggest fan! this picture was for randy pausch? omg, he is my hero and role model. R.I.P. Randy, I am your #1 biggest fan!

]]> By: carol http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2009/05/kobayashi-maru/comment-page-1/#comment-19738 carol Thu, 21 May 2009 17:47:57 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/?p=1420#comment-19738 The Kobayashi Maru is actually a story on audio cassette that I listened to years ago. It has the senior officers stuck on a shuttle with no hope of rescue. So to pass time each of them in turn tell their story of what they did during the test. I got the tape at the library. It's a very interesting, entertaining story if you can find it. The Kobayashi Maru is actually a story on audio cassette that I listened to years ago. It has the senior officers stuck on a shuttle with no hope of rescue. So to pass time each of them in turn tell their story of what they did during the test. I got the tape at the library. It’s a very interesting, entertaining story if you can find it.

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