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		<title>By: It&#8217;s going to take five years &#171; Opportunity Cloud</title>
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		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s going to take five years &#171; Opportunity Cloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2, 2010 Sparat under: Visdomar &#8212; Erik Starck @ 9:04 e m  Tags: Startup  People say it takes 10&#8242;000 hours of practice to become an expert in something. That&#8217;s roughly ten [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hunter Nuttall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hunter Nuttall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 05:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Dan, I agree that plenty of details were missing. Aside from evidence for the 10,000 hour rule, my biggest question was exactly where it applies and what it does for you.

For example, a chess player with 10,000 hours of practice will make far less money than a moderately good copywriter, making me wonder whether reaching that level of expertise is all it&#039;s cracked up to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dan, I agree that plenty of details were missing. Aside from evidence for the 10,000 hour rule, my biggest question was exactly where it applies and what it does for you.</p>
<p>For example, a chess player with 10,000 hours of practice will make far less money than a moderately good copywriter, making me wonder whether reaching that level of expertise is all it&#8217;s cracked up to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 01:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There doesn’t seem to be any scientific evidence to support the 10 000 hour rule.
First of all, I should point out that Malcolm Gladwell is not the one who came out with the 10 000 hour rule. It was K. Anders Ericsson, Ralf Th. Krampe, and Clemens Tesch-Romer who did the research and came to that conclusion. This is probably the only study of its kind as search engines made no mention of any other.
 
I encourage people to read the original journal on this topic. It is titled The Role of Deliberate Practice in the Acquisition of Expert Performance  by K. Anders Ericsson, Ralf Th. Krampe, and Clemens Tesch-Romer. The research methodology they used to lead to this 10 000 hour rule conclusion is not very concrete.

The research was done at Music Academy of West Berlin where only musicians were studied.

To cut a long story short, students varying in skill were interviewed and asked to fill out information in order to obtain data. For instance, much of this included estimating (yes, estimating) the amount of time spent on music and other activities they have done in a week. This also included the music students (not researchers) rating (from 1-10) how relevant other activities such as cleaning or sports were to music practice. Statistical methods were then used to calculate these raw numbers eventually leading to them to conclude that the most skilled musicians put in at least 10 000 hours of practice.

Only music students were involved in the research. No other activities such as sports, writing, fine arts, languages and so on were studied.

The researchers did not actually track their subjects for 10 000 hours over a number of years. Thus, there was nobody to even evaluate their progress from start to finish. It seems like they did not observe the quality of practice or how much was practice was done in a given time. Who knows? What if the students did not accurately recall their practice time from the past? What if some exaggerate or underestimate the amount of  practice they put in. What if some of them did not tell the truth about the age they started playing music? This leaves a lot of room for error and inaccuracies. 

From a less than convincing study involving just musicians, people are already generalising that 10 000 hours are needed in order to have expertise in any area. Different subject areas vary in difficulty and so does what is considered “expert”. How can one just place a magic number of 10 000 hours needed to become proficient in anything?

All this is an example of bad science.

Malcolm Gladwell is a good writer but he is not a researcher. Yet, he oversteps his boundaries when he discusses matters related to expertise. He can craft together a well written piece of work that sounds convincing but is based at best on anecdotes and not hard facts (this reminds me of Professor Phillippe Rushton and his poorly researched work Race, Evolution and Behaviour). This, combined with bad science can be dangerous. If Google is any indication, look at how many people are just blindly accepting the 10 000 hour rule as gospel. Many of them have no idea where all this started nor do they further research the topic.

Gladwell used The Beatles to illustrate the 10 000 hour rule. A lousy example as they did not demonstrate exceptional musical skill. There are bands out there that have far greater skill than The Beatles do but are far less known.

Yes, one needs practice to become skilled. But to say one needs 10 000 hours in any area? Furthermore, I don’t think there is good evidence to disprove talent being a factor. Well, I could go on about this but before any of this can be accurate and conclusive, a lot more research is needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There doesn’t seem to be any scientific evidence to support the 10 000 hour rule.<br />
First of all, I should point out that Malcolm Gladwell is not the one who came out with the 10 000 hour rule. It was K. Anders Ericsson, Ralf Th. Krampe, and Clemens Tesch-Romer who did the research and came to that conclusion. This is probably the only study of its kind as search engines made no mention of any other.</p>
<p>I encourage people to read the original journal on this topic. It is titled The Role of Deliberate Practice in the Acquisition of Expert Performance  by K. Anders Ericsson, Ralf Th. Krampe, and Clemens Tesch-Romer. The research methodology they used to lead to this 10 000 hour rule conclusion is not very concrete.</p>
<p>The research was done at Music Academy of West Berlin where only musicians were studied.</p>
<p>To cut a long story short, students varying in skill were interviewed and asked to fill out information in order to obtain data. For instance, much of this included estimating (yes, estimating) the amount of time spent on music and other activities they have done in a week. This also included the music students (not researchers) rating (from 1-10) how relevant other activities such as cleaning or sports were to music practice. Statistical methods were then used to calculate these raw numbers eventually leading to them to conclude that the most skilled musicians put in at least 10 000 hours of practice.</p>
<p>Only music students were involved in the research. No other activities such as sports, writing, fine arts, languages and so on were studied.</p>
<p>The researchers did not actually track their subjects for 10 000 hours over a number of years. Thus, there was nobody to even evaluate their progress from start to finish. It seems like they did not observe the quality of practice or how much was practice was done in a given time. Who knows? What if the students did not accurately recall their practice time from the past? What if some exaggerate or underestimate the amount of  practice they put in. What if some of them did not tell the truth about the age they started playing music? This leaves a lot of room for error and inaccuracies. </p>
<p>From a less than convincing study involving just musicians, people are already generalising that 10 000 hours are needed in order to have expertise in any area. Different subject areas vary in difficulty and so does what is considered “expert”. How can one just place a magic number of 10 000 hours needed to become proficient in anything?</p>
<p>All this is an example of bad science.</p>
<p>Malcolm Gladwell is a good writer but he is not a researcher. Yet, he oversteps his boundaries when he discusses matters related to expertise. He can craft together a well written piece of work that sounds convincing but is based at best on anecdotes and not hard facts (this reminds me of Professor Phillippe Rushton and his poorly researched work Race, Evolution and Behaviour). This, combined with bad science can be dangerous. If Google is any indication, look at how many people are just blindly accepting the 10 000 hour rule as gospel. Many of them have no idea where all this started nor do they further research the topic.</p>
<p>Gladwell used The Beatles to illustrate the 10 000 hour rule. A lousy example as they did not demonstrate exceptional musical skill. There are bands out there that have far greater skill than The Beatles do but are far less known.</p>
<p>Yes, one needs practice to become skilled. But to say one needs 10 000 hours in any area? Furthermore, I don’t think there is good evidence to disprove talent being a factor. Well, I could go on about this but before any of this can be accurate and conclusive, a lot more research is needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Perfect Play: Man Vs. Machine In Games</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perfect Play: Man Vs. Machine In Games</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in 45 years, and said he could visualize 150 moves in advance. (He&#8217;s also an example of the 10,000 hour rule, having studied checkers for about 10,000 hours in grad [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lessons Learned in 2009 - Sources of Insight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lessons Learned in 2009 - Sources of Insight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 09:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Deliberate practice &#8211; “Research shows that 10 years (or 10,000 hours) of practice can make anyone a top performer in pretty much any field, from sports to music to business.” – Hunter Nutall [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Deliberate practice &#8211; “Research shows that 10 years (or 10,000 hours) of practice can make anyone a top performer in pretty much any field, from sports to music to business.” – Hunter Nutall [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter Nuttall</title>
		<link>http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2009/04/how-to-become-an-expert/comment-page-1/#comment-36473</link>
		<dc:creator>Hunter Nuttall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 01:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Heather, yeah, I heard about the 10,000 hour rule from Malcolm Gladwell (&quot;Outliers&quot;), though I don&#039;t know if he invented it. And yeah, those have to be 10,000 good hours, not just punching a time clock. I don&#039;t know about foot specialists per se, but I&#039;ve actually heard that doctors in general have to put a lot of effort into staying current. 10,000 hours is just the beginning!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Heather, yeah, I heard about the 10,000 hour rule from Malcolm Gladwell (&#8220;Outliers&#8221;), though I don&#8217;t know if he invented it. And yeah, those have to be 10,000 good hours, not just punching a time clock. I don&#8217;t know about foot specialists per se, but I&#8217;ve actually heard that doctors in general have to put a lot of effort into staying current. 10,000 hours is just the beginning!</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 09:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10,000 hours - interesting that this has been the guidline.  I believe it comes from Malcolm Gladwell. And it makes a lot of sense - 10 years or about 10,000 hours would position someone as an expert as long as they don&#039;t spin their wheels learning and doing the same thing over and over and continue learning new things to perfect their craft.  What I would love to see more about is the importance of updating what you master once you get there.  To be an expert one must stay current with their area of expertise as well.  So an SEO expert might have to work a bit harder than say a foot specialist. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10,000 hours &#8211; interesting that this has been the guidline.  I believe it comes from Malcolm Gladwell. And it makes a lot of sense &#8211; 10 years or about 10,000 hours would position someone as an expert as long as they don&#8217;t spin their wheels learning and doing the same thing over and over and continue learning new things to perfect their craft.  What I would love to see more about is the importance of updating what you master once you get there.  To be an expert one must stay current with their area of expertise as well.  So an SEO expert might have to work a bit harder than say a foot specialist. <img src='http://hunternuttall.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hunter Nuttall</title>
		<link>http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2009/04/how-to-become-an-expert/comment-page-1/#comment-24826</link>
		<dc:creator>Hunter Nuttall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Chuck, based on this, I don&#039;t think anyone would doubt that you&#039;re an expert at cleaning carpets!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Chuck, based on this, I don&#8217;t think anyone would doubt that you&#8217;re an expert at cleaning carpets!</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been self employed for thirty Four years, I work six days a week *,10,12,14,sometimes 16hrs a day, six days a week. Does this make me an expert business person. My business is cleaning carpets and upholstery. I have been doing this longer then any one I know. Does this make me an expert? I am probably  one of the first to be certified master cleaner in my area, I became one of the first certified inspectors in my area, I was a certified instructor, To train others in the field.  Does this make me an expert? I have probably forgotten most of the terms and definitions I learned in all the books that I have read  and courses I&#039;v taken.  Do I need to refresh my memory to be recognized as an expert? 
This first thing I do automatically when I enter a room with carpet is look at the carpet, I can not help it. The carpet starts talking to me from the time I start a job until the time I finish, some times by the time I finish a job I can give you a life history about it or close to it. Does this make me an expert? I could Probably go on an on but I have to go. I would be interested in hearing what you think. What an expert is. Who would you like to have your carpets cleaned someone who could recite every word in the training manual and never cleaned a carpet before or some who has been there done that . OVER an OVER an Over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been self employed for thirty Four years, I work six days a week *,10,12,14,sometimes 16hrs a day, six days a week. Does this make me an expert business person. My business is cleaning carpets and upholstery. I have been doing this longer then any one I know. Does this make me an expert? I am probably  one of the first to be certified master cleaner in my area, I became one of the first certified inspectors in my area, I was a certified instructor, To train others in the field.  Does this make me an expert? I have probably forgotten most of the terms and definitions I learned in all the books that I have read  and courses I&#8217;v taken.  Do I need to refresh my memory to be recognized as an expert?<br />
This first thing I do automatically when I enter a room with carpet is look at the carpet, I can not help it. The carpet starts talking to me from the time I start a job until the time I finish, some times by the time I finish a job I can give you a life history about it or close to it. Does this make me an expert? I could Probably go on an on but I have to go. I would be interested in hearing what you think. What an expert is. Who would you like to have your carpets cleaned someone who could recite every word in the training manual and never cleaned a carpet before or some who has been there done that . OVER an OVER an Over.</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter Nuttall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hunter Nuttall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Carol, I guess for some things you need some actual talent, but for most things, I&#039;d think that love and passion + hours would be enough. I think I&#039;m going to read the book, because I&#039;ve seen a few people recommend it highly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Carol, I guess for some things you need some actual talent, but for most things, I&#8217;d think that love and passion + hours would be enough. I think I&#8217;m going to read the book, because I&#8217;ve seen a few people recommend it highly.</p>
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