Comments on: The Difference Between The Dream World And The Real World http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/ Stop sucking and live a life of abundance Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:26:33 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Neo1 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-33065 Neo1 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:26:33 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/#comment-33065 Im sorry Akemi is hould have been more specific in saying that neo was the only one who could hack the matrix. morpheus, trinity and everyone else that where on the ship of zion. But they could only do small things. But because neo was in a sense the code from the matrix he was able to do the thing that he did. I had a look at the link that you posted, but i have to this time disagree with you. what he describes is what morpheus and the other can do with the matrix, small things. but the matrix is much bigger. in fact the word matrix means simulation. read the books simulacra and simulation, and out of control. igronace is bliss, if it was that easy to hack the universal code (ie the matrix) then i would be free from my mental prison. and i said a disbelieve mind not a suspicious mind theres a differents i have a disbelief mind, where i doubt certain things. as always Neo1 Im sorry Akemi is hould have been more specific in saying that neo was the only one who could hack the matrix. morpheus, trinity and everyone else that where on the ship of zion. But they could only do small things. But because neo was in a sense the code from the matrix he was able to do the thing that he did.

I had a look at the link that you posted, but i have to this time disagree with you. what he describes is what morpheus and the other can do with the matrix, small things. but the matrix is much bigger. in fact the word matrix means simulation. read the books simulacra and simulation, and out of control.

igronace is bliss, if it was that easy to hack the universal code (ie the matrix) then i would be free from my mental prison. and i said a disbelieve mind not a suspicious mind theres a differents i have a disbelief mind, where i doubt certain things.

as always
Neo1

]]> By: Akemi - Yes to Me http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-33062 Akemi - Yes to Me Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:48:49 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/#comment-33062 Neo1, I respectfully disagree. We all can rewrite the program of the universal computer, and it's not even difficult. At least it's easier than HTML codes for me. I have a few posts about this, and I'm leaving the link to one of them (my latest) because I think Hunter loves this, too. <a href="http://yes-to-me.com/2009/11/17/review-the-spontaneous-healing-of-belief-by-gregg-braden/" rel="nofollow">http://yes-to-me.com/2009/11/17/review-the-spontaneous-healing-of-belief-by-gregg-braden/</a> Being suspicious does no good. I've tried that to my computer. I also admit I have hit my computer, which only damaged it. Smiles, Akemi Neo1,

I respectfully disagree. We all can rewrite the program of the universal computer, and it’s not even difficult. At least it’s easier than HTML codes for me.
I have a few posts about this, and I’m leaving the link to one of them (my latest) because I think Hunter loves this, too.

http://yes-to-me.com/2009/11/17/review-the-spontaneous-healing-of-belief-by-gregg-braden/

Being suspicious does no good. I’ve tried that to my computer. I also admit I have hit my computer, which only damaged it.

Smiles,
Akemi

]]> By: Neo1 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-32680 Neo1 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:28:00 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/#comment-32680 No one is sure who free'd morpheus from the matrix. as for hacking the matrix the only person to do that is the One himself. "If you don’t like a program, and if you know the computer language, you can just change the codes. - quote from Akemi" that would be great but this is were the whole igronance is bliss comes into play. for most people living there lives day after day, with thier creature comforts, the world to them is real, they have no reason to change anything. but it is that 1% that do question there world, so really in a sence there are hacking the matrix. not through code, but through a question and disbelieve mind. No one is sure who free’d morpheus from the matrix.

as for hacking the matrix the only person to do that is the One himself.

“If you don’t like a program, and if you know the computer language, you can just change the codes. – quote from Akemi” that would be great but this is were the whole igronance is bliss comes into play. for most people living there lives day after day, with thier creature comforts, the world to them is real, they have no reason to change anything. but it is that 1% that do question there world, so really in a sence there are hacking the matrix. not through code, but through a question and disbelieve mind.

]]> By: Akemi - Yes to Me http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-32669 Akemi - Yes to Me Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:33:51 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/#comment-32669 So who gave morpheus the red pill? I don't think it matters who wrote the Matrix program. If you don't like a program, and if you know the computer language, you can just change the codes. Hackers do that. There may be a legal issue on ownership of the intellectual property, but not a technical issue. So who gave morpheus the red pill?

I don’t think it matters who wrote the Matrix program. If you don’t like a program, and if you know the computer language, you can just change the codes. Hackers do that. There may be a legal issue on ownership of the intellectual property, but not a technical issue.

]]> By: Neo1 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-32652 Neo1 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:50:23 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/#comment-32652 this is true, but his life was a pardoxical one, really when you think about it, neo's life was a dream within a dream within a dream. it was only through the power of anothers love did he truely awaken, not only to become the one, but to see the truth (The Matrix for what it really is). where as trinity, morpheus and the others on really awoke from one from of prison to another THE MATRIX to ZION. so really if this is the case, love is the key to this whole thing. the merovingian said the love has a similar pattern to that of insanity. and i think it firstly takes a crazy person to believe in dream world reality. but when you are in love, and i truly mean in love your eyes are opened to so many diffferent things. this is true, but his life was a pardoxical one, really when you think about it, neo’s life was a dream within a dream within a dream. it was only through the power of anothers love did he truely awaken, not only to become the one, but to see the truth (The Matrix for what it really is). where as trinity, morpheus and the others on really awoke from one from of prison to another THE MATRIX to ZION.

so really if this is the case, love is the key to this whole thing. the merovingian said the love has a similar pattern to that of insanity. and i think it firstly takes a crazy person to believe in dream world reality. but when you are in love, and i truly mean in love your eyes are opened to so many diffferent things.

]]> By: Hunter Nuttall http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-32647 Hunter Nuttall Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:02:49 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/#comment-32647 @ Neo1, another thing is that the Oracle told Neo he wasn't the one, that he looked like he was waiting for another life. Then after he "died," he knew he was the one. @ Neo1, another thing is that the Oracle told Neo he wasn’t the one, that he looked like he was waiting for another life. Then after he “died,” he knew he was the one.

]]> By: Neo1 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-32599 Neo1 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:52:50 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/#comment-32599 the matrix is nothing more than electrical impulses controling are minds through a computer generated dream world/state. "if you are kill in the matrix. you die here as well." "the mind cant live without the body" perfect example of this is in the movie mouse dies after being shot. But while neo survives. This is becasue he awoke twice. but most of all he risked everything (ie love) is it then possible that if we are willing to risk everything in order to release oneself from our mental prison that the truth would be revealed to us. the matrix is nothing more than electrical impulses controling are minds through a computer generated dream world/state.

“if you are kill in the matrix. you die here as well.”

“the mind cant live without the body”

perfect example of this is in the movie mouse dies after being shot. But while neo survives. This is becasue he awoke twice. but most of all he risked everything (ie love)

is it then possible that if we are willing to risk everything in order to release oneself from our mental prison that the truth would be revealed to us.

]]> By: Hunter Nuttall http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-32592 Hunter Nuttall Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:51:25 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/#comment-32592 @ Akemi, Morpheus and Trinity are from the 20th century, and they took the red pill, same as Neo. The thing about the matrix is that while it's not real, your mind makes it real. So when someone gets hurt in the program, their body bleeds in the real world. And if they die in the matrix, they die in real life, because the body cannot exist without the mind. Cypher kills some people by unplugging them, thereby separating their mind from their body. Mouse dies when he's shot in the matrix, because on some level he believes it's real. It meets a plot need, but I think it makes sense too. I don't think they're very much into instant gratification, just the occasional woman in a red dress. I'm sure the novelty of the matrix wears off after a while. And in the sequel, they learn that their violence was not as effective as they thought. @ Akemi, Morpheus and Trinity are from the 20th century, and they took the red pill, same as Neo.

The thing about the matrix is that while it’s not real, your mind makes it real. So when someone gets hurt in the program, their body bleeds in the real world. And if they die in the matrix, they die in real life, because the body cannot exist without the mind.

Cypher kills some people by unplugging them, thereby separating their mind from their body. Mouse dies when he’s shot in the matrix, because on some level he believes it’s real. It meets a plot need, but I think it makes sense too.

I don’t think they’re very much into instant gratification, just the occasional woman in a red dress. I’m sure the novelty of the matrix wears off after a while. And in the sequel, they learn that their violence was not as effective as they thought.

]]> By: Akemi - Yes to Me http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-32568 Akemi - Yes to Me Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:21:40 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/#comment-32568 I think it was easy because I thought it was easy. After that, I tried to do it again, and I couldn't. Or maybe I don't go lucid because it really doesn't matter to me. I heard checking the mirror can be very scary in dreams, so I don't do it. I think all it takes is to program myself to notice when I'm dreaming and teach myself a few clues (like wall testing. I also taught myself if I see my parents or my ex, that's a dream) May I ask another stupid question about that movie? Are Morpheus and Trinity from the future world or are they also from the 20th century world who took red pill? Because if they are from the future world, there is no way they die in the Matrix. Just like Neo cannot die there. It's a computer program, so if they die there, all it happens is, in their real world, they go, "Gosh, I lost!" The only way they would die is when their real bodies get killed. Perhaps they think they would die in the Matrix because of another plot need? Btw I am completely against the idea that instant gratification and violence can improve anything. But the movie was interesting nonetheless. I think it was easy because I thought it was easy. After that, I tried to do it again, and I couldn’t. Or maybe I don’t go lucid because it really doesn’t matter to me.

I heard checking the mirror can be very scary in dreams, so I don’t do it. I think all it takes is to program myself to notice when I’m dreaming and teach myself a few clues (like wall testing. I also taught myself if I see my parents or my ex, that’s a dream)

May I ask another stupid question about that movie? Are Morpheus and Trinity from the future world or are they also from the 20th century world who took red pill? Because if they are from the future world, there is no way they die in the Matrix. Just like Neo cannot die there. It’s a computer program, so if they die there, all it happens is, in their real world, they go, “Gosh, I lost!” The only way they would die is when their real bodies get killed.
Perhaps they think they would die in the Matrix because of another plot need?

Btw I am completely against the idea that instant gratification and violence can improve anything. But the movie was interesting nonetheless.

]]> By: Hunter Nuttall http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-32545 Hunter Nuttall Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:03:00 +0000 http://hunternuttall.com/blog/2008/03/the-difference-between-the-dream-world-and-the-real-world/#comment-32545 @ Akemi, wow, you make it sound so easy. I haven't had a lucid dream yet, though I always check my reflection in mirrors to see if it's how it should be. I'll try pushing walls too. Glad you finally watched The Matrix. I guess they're serious because the human race is nearly extinct - must be a lot of pressure. The reason they can't really change scenarios in the matrix is because it's not their program - the machines wrote it. But in a lucid dream, you're the programmer. And they can't wake up without a phone call on a land line, for plot reasons. No fair if they could avoid bad guys just by waking up! @ Akemi, wow, you make it sound so easy. I haven’t had a lucid dream yet, though I always check my reflection in mirrors to see if it’s how it should be. I’ll try pushing walls too.

Glad you finally watched The Matrix. I guess they’re serious because the human race is nearly extinct – must be a lot of pressure.

The reason they can’t really change scenarios in the matrix is because it’s not their program – the machines wrote it. But in a lucid dream, you’re the programmer. And they can’t wake up without a phone call on a land line, for plot reasons. No fair if they could avoid bad guys just by waking up!

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